#39: 'Two White Guys Talking About Diversity,' with guest Veronica Corzo-Duchardt of Winterbureau

Photo provided by Veronica Corzo-Duchardt. 

Photo provided by Veronica Corzo-Duchardt. 

This week, Cher and James join Veronica Corzo-Duchardt to talk about her Neche Collection, how she blends her tangible prints on analog and digital mediums, and encouraging more visibility in artist talks. In Open Mic, Cher and Veronica debate over teaching methods, James and Veronica debate over notebooks vs iPads, and Cher and James debate with Veronica over Queen Latifah and how Missy Elliott needs to get into acting. Lastly, in Open Call, Veronica finds her vibe watching choreography videos, James finished another book, and Cher gives a shout out to a music podcast.

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References made during our conversation:

Veronica Corzo-Duchardt, creator of Winterbureau

The Neche Collection, a blog based on Veronica's late grandfather

Art vs Design Panels

Do What You Love Panels

Diversity Shouldn't Be a Person

Reply All's latest "Raising the Bar", a story of a former Black engineer at Twitter

Veronica is really good at Twitter, follow her!

Open Mic, a series of mini-debates:

Cher vs. Veronica: Micro vs. macro management teaching methods

James vs. Veronica: Notebooks vs. iPads

Open Ended vs. Veronica: Missy Elliott vs. Queen Latifah

Open Call, what we are feeling this week:

Veronica: Tricia Miranda Choreography Videos on Youtube

James: Deep Work by Cal Newport

Cher: Switched on Pop's Episode #28: Click with Dick and Other Campaign Anthems

Thanks for listening to episode 39. It couldn't have been done without the help of the following folks:

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Script written by Cher and James.

Music by U+1F60C.

Until next time, keep things Open Ended.